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The Why, the What and the How
Fish in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast discussing Diversity in Swiss Leadership. In 20-30 Minute interviews with leaders throughout Switzerland discuss what can be done on an individual as well as on an organisational level to increase diversity in Leadership positions.
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I rarely speak about my work or what drives me, mainly because I feel there are more important people out there, but this time around I was convinced to talk to #fishintheboardroom about #integrity, #change, #compassion
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Past Role Model Events
Podcast Season 4
#28 Simona, Why do you Challenge the Notion of Availability equaling Results?
Listen on:#28 Simona, Why do you Challenge the Notion of Availability equaling Results? With Simona Scarpaleggia, Board Member at EDGE Strategy In the last episode of the season, I talk with Simona Scarpaleggia, an international business leader, author, board member...
#27 Gilles, what does a committed father need?
Listen on:#27 Gilles, what does a committed father need? With Gilles Crettenand from Swiss national MenCare programme in French-speaking SwitzerlandNote: This interview is held in French. Research has proven without a doubt that having an engaged, nurturing father can...
#26 Anne, is ensuring diversity in ads the key to a double bottom line?
Listen on:Anne, is ensuring diversity in ads the key to a double bottom line? With Anne Joffre Bonnaillie of Procter & Gamble Ads that portray women in a professional setting receive significantly less funding than those that portray them in traditional gender...
#25 Reto, why are fathers key for a family-friendly company culture?
Listen on:Reto, why are fathers key for a family-friendly company culture? With Reno Kessler of Väternetzerk SchweizIn a 2019 study by UNICEF, Switzerland ranked last in terms of family-friendly policies among 41 high- and medium-income countries. Balancing family...
#24 Holacracy – the universal answer to the challenges of tomorrow’s working world – hype or myth?
Listen on:Holacracy - the universal answer to the challenges of tomorrow´s working world - hype or myth? With Gerhard Andrey of LIIPAs an answer to rapidly changing business environments and employee expectations in the last two decades, new models of organizational...
#23 How do you start a DE&I initiative with no resources?
Listen on:How do you start a DE&I initiative with no resources? With Bas van Buijtenen and Amira Ghozali of Aptar PharmaAptar is a global leader in designing and manufacturing consumer dispensing and drug delivery solutions, with 13 000 employees in 20 countries....
#22 Are you still talking or are you networking already?
Listen on:Are you still talking... or are you networking already? With womenmatter/s founders Marilen Schwald and Stefanie FehrThere is a long line of research showing that women face greater barriers than men when it comes to finding professional opportunities...
#21 Frau Sander, ist Diversität immer gut?
Listen on:Frau Sander, ist Diversität IMMER gut? With Prof. Dr. Gudrun SanderNote: This episode is held in GermanFor many years, the University of St. Gallen (HSG) has been conducting research on the many different dimensions of Diversity and Inclusion. A pioneer in...
Podcast Season 3
#20 What it means to actively drive the DE&I change with Suat Demokan
Listen on:What it means to actively drive the DE&I change With Suat Demokan This episode is supported by Advance, Gender Equality in Business of wich Bühler is a member.Bühler is a globally active Swiss technology group specialized in solutions for food and...
#19 Find your voice! How to empower confidence with Lucy Antrobus
Listen on:Find your voice! – How to empower confidence With Lucy AntrobusFleeing your home country, leaving everything behind, family, friends, careers and posessions is a traumatic event. Add to that the integration into a new and foreign country, and one can only...
#18 The impact of diversity and inclusion on successful sustainable leadership with Jürg Eggenberger
Listen on:The impact of diversity and inclusion on successful sustainable leadership With Jürg EggenbergerAccording to Harvard professor John P. Kotter, management stands for the perfect organization of processes, planning and controlling. Leadership, on the other...
#17 How to keep up as a woman in a traditionally male-dominated working field with Corina Grünenfelder
Listen on:How to keep up as a woman in a traditionally male-dominated working field With Corina Grünenfelder This episode is brought to you in cooperation with EY in Switzerland who are supporting and advocating diversity and inclusion.In Switzerland only 6,5 %, of...
Podcast Season 2
#16 What Men Gain From a Parental Leave with Dario Cristiano
Listen on:What Men Gain From a Parental Leave with Dario Cristiano This episode is brought to you in cooperation with Advance.Understanding that equality in the workplace starts at home, several companies offer parental leave programs for men that go beyond the...
#15 Giving Employees the Right to be Entrepreneurs with Christophe Barman
Listen on:Giving Employees the Right to be Entrepreneurs with Christophe Barman If culture is key when it comes to having more diversity, then companies following new leadership models, such as Holacracy, should be inherently having more diversity. But is this true?...
#14 Leverage Recruiting for Culture Change with Georg Lange
Listen on:Leverage Recruiting for Culture Change with Georg Lange When recruiting for an open position finding suitable candidates can be challenging. At the same time, with every new hire, you have an opportunity to shape your company culture. So how can you go about...
#13 Reframing Diversity as an Opportunity with Hajar EL Haddaoui
Listen on:#13 Reframing Diversity as an Opportunity with Hajar EL Haddaoui In 2020, the share of foreigners working in the service industry in Switzerland was 14.5%, that is 1 in 7 employees. In that sense, the Swiss workforce is already quite diverse, but how does...
#12 Equal Pay – From Childhood to Enforced Laws with Deborah Halter
Listen on:Equal Pay - From Childhood to Enforced Laws with Deborah Halter By law, men and women are equal, unfortunately, statistics show, when it comes to salary this is not the case. There has been lots of talk about this, but where do we stand today? What has been...
#11 How to Change Company Culture in 6 min with Matthias Mölleney
Listen on:How to change company culture in 6 min with Matthias Mölleney Reduced to a minimum, talking about Diversity and Inclusion means talking about company culture. But what can you do to create a company culture where trust is the basis of a good collaboration?...
#10 The Importance of Role Models for All Ages with Andrea Delannoy
Listen on:The Importance fo Role Models for All Ages with Andrea Delannoy As Marian Wright Edelman said, “You can’t be what you can’t see”. This quote demonstrates the importance of role models in creating our vision of what is possible. Andrea Delannoy has...
#9 Using Artificial Intelligence to Measure Unconscious Bias with Annabella Bassler
Listen on:Using Artificial Intelligence to Measure Unconscious Bias with Annabella Bassler Internationally, males represent 82% of media coverage, whilst in Switzerland, this number is only slightly better with 75%. To address this discrepancy, Annabella Bassler, the...
Podcast Season 1
#8 What if you could be your own role model? A Summary Episode of Season 1 with Andrea
Summary Episode Season 1 What if you could be your own role model? As this episode is the last of the first season, I decided to use the opportunity to not interview anyone, but rather reflect on where I started and what I have learned so far. So, this is a much more...
#7 Be the change you want to see in the world with Amjad Saleem
Be the change you want to see in the world with Amjad Saleem Amjad Saleem is the Inclusion, Protection and Engagement Manager at the IFRC, the International Federation of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent. My conversation with Amjad revolves around leadership and...
#6 Promotion as the main issue with Alkistis Petropaki
Promotion as the main issue with Alkistis Petropaki of Advance - Gender Equality in Business The promotion of women in the workplace is currently the biggest issue for women's careers according to Alkistis Petropaki, general manager of Advance. Advance is a...
#5 Recruiting inclusively is easy with Johanna Seeliger
Recruiting inclusively is easy with Johanna Seeliger Johanna Seeliger is the founder and CEO of Diversify, a company which works with start-up and established companies to make them more attractive to diverse talent. Do you believe that recruiting inclusively is hard?...
#4 Everybody is a leader with regards to diversity with Atena Hensch
Everybody is a leader with regards to diversity with Atena Hensch Atena Hensch is a Diversity and Inclusion (D&I) expert at Hensch Consulting, specializing in assessments of organizations in terms of where they stand in their diversity and inclusion efforts, but...
#3 Investing in talent at mid-level management with Rodica Rosu Fridez
Investing in talent at mid-level management with Rodica Rosu Fridez Rodica Rosu Fridez is the founder of InspirAction and the ambassador for The A Effect in Switzerland. What are women's responsibilities and what are company's responsibilities when it comes to...
#2 The courage to have the difficult conversations with Pirmin Meyer
The courage to have the difficult conversations with Pirmin Meyer Pirmin Meyer the co-founder of WE/MEN, a Swiss movement aiming at engaging men to become vocal about gender equality. In this episode, Pirmin talks openly about his experience, what the reactions were...
#1 The importance of training in addressing diversity with René Bujard
The importance of training in addressing diversity with René Bujard René is HR director at Galderma and is passionate about diversity. In this podcast episode I talk to him about what brought him to be engaged and about his experience as an HR leader driving change...
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Digestible insights
For anyone interested in practices relating to Diversity and Inclusion in Switzerland – and let’s be honest, huge progress needs to be made here – this podcast offers a wealth of insights in a series of short,, information-rich interviews with leading practitioners in the filed. A much-needed addition to the Swiss podcast landscape.
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